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Suspected adenocarcinoma, advice needed

Started by goldiepower, August 25, 2012, 11:33:07 AM

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goldiepower

My friend in the US has a 6-year-old Golden who has a suspected adenocarcinoma in his nasal passage. He's had intermittent nose bleeds over the last month, this week he had a rhinoscopy and CT scan. The CT scan showed a "small" mass (1.2 x 0.8 x 3.6 cm) in the nasal passage but unortunately the biopsy did not give a large enough sample for a definitive histopath diagnosis.

They have an appt with the surgeon on Monday, he is a veterinary orthopedic surgeon. They're not sure what to do now, and are researching possibilities and considering going back to the DC area to see an oncologist rather than sticking with their current specialist.

Does anyone have any experience of nasal tumours in dogs? Any information would be gratefully received!

Many thanks

Chris & the Golden Boys
Sydney, Edward and William
Angels ^Chad^ (SRMA, Hypo-T), ^Thomas^ (Hypo-T, CHF), ^Sweet Baby James^
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gschellinger

Chris,
There were quite a few on the yahoo cancer list for dogs when we were exploring that possibility with Lola. Unfortunatly it is not easily or very often cured. Even with treatment it is poor prognosis.
gail
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goldiepower

Thanks Gail, I'll take a look on there.

Chris & the Golden Boys
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Amshura

 Hullo Chris
I had a friend who had an Affi with  cancerous  nasal  tumour. He did very well with  treatment from the onocology team at cambridge Vet School UK & this is now going back a good few yrs.

Treatments have improved dramatically in such cases since then from the recent lectures I have attended; you do NOT always  attain a CURE but a QUALITY remission period & the dogs do NOT suffer affects of chemo/radiotherapy like us humans so your friends most definately need an ONOCOLGY oppinion...NOT an ORTHOPOD!! Good luck
Sylvia

goldiepower

Thanks Sylvia, I'll pass that on. I agree with you about the surgeon, that's where I would go too!

Chris & the Golden Boys
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goldiepower

Quote from: Amshura on August 26, 2012, 09:03:23 AM
I had a friend who had an Affi with  cancerous  nasal  tumour. He did very well with  treatment from the onocology team at cambridge Vet School UK & this is now going back a good few yrs.

Hi Sylvia

Do you recall whether the dog had surgery in addition to chemo (or radiotherapy)?

They have found an oncologist in PA they're looking into, meanwhile the options are just mind-boggling for them.

Thank you for the info, it's much appreciated

Chris & the Golden Boys
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gschellinger

Not sure if this is the same type of nasal cancer, but when I was on the yahoo group for cancer, this owner was still caring for her dog. He has passed on now, but the blog may be interesting. He had a lot of treatment and outlived his prognosis.
http://handsomehardee.blogspot.com/
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goldiepower

Thank you Gail! I will pass that on. I know they're looking for as much information as they can get before they make a decision, they obviously want to be sure they do the right thing for their little lad.

Chris & the Golden Boys
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Amshura

no Chris this dog only had radiology treatment & maybe  some chemo drug therapy but it was a good few yrs back & they have made further advances  since . He was a black affi & the only side effects he had was the  fur on his   facial/nasal areas where he was exposed to radiation turned white. Initially, because of his age Jane Dobson at Cambridge was  not going to do anything but  he was such a YOUNG in spirit 10 yr old that they  changed their mind and he went on for over another 18 months I seem to remember.
It is good that they are getting an onocology appt.Is this at Penn Uni?...it has a good reputation.
Sylvia

goldiepower

Thanks Sylvia, I'll let Sharon know. I think the vet they saw already had suggested surgery, but hopefully the oncologist will be able to help him with radio/chemo. I'll let her know about PennUni too, she didn't say where, in PA but I'm sure she'll be happy to know of their reputation.
Chris
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goldiepower

Here is a short update:

Nick is booked in on Thursday next week to remove the mass. The surgeon, who incidentally has Goldens of his own, has performed around 20 of these types of surgery, so they are comfortable with him doing it. From all the information they have, it seems that surgery will not cure the problem is it is malignant, but they will get a definitive diagnosis and be able to plan for radio/chemo if indicated, and they will go to Penn Uni if he needs that. Because of his age (he is only 6) the expert opinion is that it has a high probablility of being malignant so it is likely he will need treatment afterwards.

All paws are crossed for him, I know what it's like to lose 2 close together, as many folks on this forum do, I just hope he'll pull through and stay with them a little longer.
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Jo CIMDA

Hi chris

I'm sorry about your friend's Goldie. He is young, which is very sad.  Our Chester had nasal cancer.  He was just 11.  We took him to see John Carter, a vet who treated him with his own non-invasive cancer treatment CV247.  It closed the tumour within a few weeks but the biopsy performed by our own vet caused the cancer to spred to his leg and this was an added problem.  The prognosis was only 6 months and Chester lived for 9 months after diagnosis. This was some years ago now and our friend's  goldie is only 6 and the surgery might just buy him a much longer time.  Fingers crossed for him.

Jo

goldiepower

Thanks Jo, I hope he pulls through, as you say he is very young. I remember well when they got him as a new pup, he is such a sweet boy. He found his niche as a therapy dog for kids with learning difficulties, a real gentle giant. He has been very subdued since they lost their other Golden, I talked to them at lenghth about hypo-T and pointed them to the info on this forum and to Jean Dodds. He had tests and was about to go for retesting (he almost certainly is hypo-T) when all this started.

I'll let you know how he gets on...

Chris & the Golden Boys x
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goldiepower

I have an update on Nick:

"Ok - he's out of surgery.  Everything went well but they did have to remove a narrow section of bone on the left side of his nose.  Surgeon said Nick did fine w/the anesthesia.  Surgeon said that lesion did not look like adenocarcinoma (which they thought it might be) - he wasn't sure if it is a cancer or not but area looked very inflamed.  He felt he got the entire mass and described it as not encapsulated, some grey tissue, some blood clots.  Obviously, we are praying it's benign.  So entire mass submitted for histopath - we should know something by next Mon/Tues."

All paws crossed! They get him home tomorrow morning then it will be a long weekend waiting for the histopath results.

Chris & the Golden Boys
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gschellinger

Please send them my best wishes for Nick.
gail
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