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Hi there
We were at the vet last week and her temperature had gone down with the antibiotics
However I said the corvental d not agreeing with holly and vet took her off both meds
Kept her on flagyl for colitis
And doxycycline for infection
That night she had throat spasms and she hadnt done that since got immune disease last year
After 3  on these meds and antepsin and pred 5 mg
She improved especialy at night not as much gagging ,licking
Hardly any coughing
But then 2 nights ago she seemed to feel really sick
Went vet yesterday
Vet last week was saying that it could be part of immune problems
Yesterdays I ask vet to take off antepsin and put on ranitidine
She said they not liscenced for her problems to give her ranitidine
But gave cimetidine half tablet twice a day
Kept her on doxycycline antibiotic
And pred5 mg ( cant reduce it she gets ill)
Took her off flagyl
Well I gave her cimetidine last night ,and she looked terrible glazed eyes stressed. Face
So I immediately gave her some food with it
She was still moaning and gagging in the night
But not gagging as much as on antepsin
Gave with food this morning
But problem is she has colitis
The flagyl isnt working as well as it used to but she seems to need it daily
Vet has taken her off it saying its an antibiotic she cant have it daily
But recently within 3 days of stopping it she begins to deteriate
Then the moaning pain mucus even blood in poo
The colitis started when she got immune mediated disease
So I came home from vet yesterday and cried for a good while
Poor holly back at vet every week
She cries on bus hates it,50 mins there n back
Its stressful
And if flagyl not a solution
What is?
The other bowel medication I think is contra indicated with pred so she cant have that
I asked vet couldnt she have a lower dose of flagyl daily
She said no
Doesnt work like that
But I have looked at the net and some dogs with colitis NEED to stay on flagyl every day for years

So sorry what poor rosie is going through!
I dearly hope she continues to improve!
Christina n holly x

Hi Sarah
Found you and benny !
Just read whats happening to your dear boy !:-(
So sorry!
And hes only 4 ,my holly not even 3 yet
I dearly hope your benny will be ok!
Christina n holly X

Thank you Sarah and benny
Are you on the forum with benny your ill dog?x

Thanks Jo
Holly coughing quite a bit tonight despite being on strong meds 5 days now
I am worried sick
I will ask vet regards immune disease causing this and mega oesophagus
I have a feeling the steamy hot bathroom be bad for her heart disease but I could be wrong
Yes I feed her on a special platform so she doesnt bend her head
Oh I hope so too that she can get help for this
Thanks
X

Gwyneth
Yes I agree that maybe just maybe our animals who are sick are meant to be with us to get our love and us to get their love
But its so utterly stressful and heartbraking,an emotional rollercoaster
Still I dont regret having holly or my karma cat that I had
I adored karma
I adore holly
And I love her so so much
Shes,hard work
But shes also an angel
X

Thanks gail
How are you doing ?
Yes I am envious in a way when people have healthy animals!
As nursed my cat with kidney disease and colitis for 12 years
Then last 7 months heart disease n cancer
And after she died at 19 ,i was alone 3 months and bought holly at 18 months old trusting she was well
A month later realised at vet check up that the previous owners duped me
Shes had serious heart disease from birth
Two months later she colapsed immune mediated disease
Phew and my god gail shes a gorgeous lil girl such a beautiful nature
It breaks your heart them.being ill
But im doing my best
Oh how I wish we could make it all ok for those we love so dearly !:-(
X

Hello Jo penel and elisabeth
Thank you for thinking of holly and i
Poor holly
She coPed with raisin incident but was gagging particularly at night and had a fever again
So more antibiotics
But fever got higher and when took of antibiotics her fever much worse and clicking of throat gagging at night ,then diarreah colitis blood in poo
On antepsin slippery elm probiotic prebiotic but needs flagyl for colitis
As soon as took her of flagyl colitis bad and then she started coughing badly
I had no credit on phone to email!!
I was so distressed 4 hours hacking cough
Same cough ad she had beggining year before fever and many months antibiotics
Vet said kennel cough but I felt that it the same underlying problems shes had since start year
Then because still coughing vet said maybe start heart failing as severe mitral valve heart disease
So last week holly went for a heart scan
Good news is though substantial heart disease she not in heart failure yet
Bad news is
Her lungs were cloudy on x ray
And vet said on order to properly see whats going on we would need to anaethsetize holly to have a good look
And dont want to as she leaking out of both atriums and sedation dangerous
We are fifth day into ceporex antibiotics for cough and lung infection and fever
Flagyl antibiotics for colitis
Corvental to open up lung airways
Pred still 5 mg a day
Antepsin twice a day
Go back Tuesday
But im worried sick as shes still coughing
Though antibiotics take edge off
At first she,was in pAin with all the meds her lil tummy popping like a firework display
But shes better now
Could immune mediated disease cause lung problems?
Problem is her heart and not being able to anaethetize
She is,such a lovely girl so sunny in nature a happy springer spaniel despite her bad health
We have fought a year and a half for her to live
Poor girl not even 3 yet
But at night she does moan
Lies bottom bed gags and moans and sounds like bringing up fluid
O think this cough the very same thing she had at start o year and has never went away
But the fact that she is,still coughing and heart speeding and breathless even when on all these drugs
Oh its not good :-(
X

Going to vet today

During the night holly started really gagging and coughing
Iv bern up most of the night with her
Im worried as she seems to be fevery,sore abdomen,pale gums and now the cough
Im wondering if..
Is it kennel cough again?
Or is it her heart disease deteriating
Is it to so with the kidneys?
Though insure if ate raisins or not as didnt see her do it
Is,her immune mediated disease gerting bad again?
Im so stressed out and worried for her
Wish I had taken her to vet Saturday after seen.her sniff raisin packet
But because I didnt actualy see her eat any I didnt want to put her through procedures
That unpleasant that she doesnt need
Poor holly x

Thanks Jo
I phoned vet and she said it too late to do anything now if she did eat them
When the last time when she ate them the vet said 48 hr window,to flush kidneys incase of shutdown
This vet didnt say that presumably because im not sure if she managed to eat any
But tonight she feels sick had diareah
I made apointment for Tuesday for vet
But may go tomorrow if still like this
Her gums very pale
Im worried sick
Of course if I seen her eat any yesterdays I would have taken her to the vet
I hope to god she will be ok :-(
X

Thanks,gail
Yes,i was thinking about a,muzzle too
But meanwhile we CANT leave the flat without me checking everywhere immediately before we do
I need to be so vigilent
I told these people but they DONT care
So I know than now
I hope she will be ok re raisins I hope she poorly because no antibiotics
We are back at vet Tuesday but if she is,sick or diareah I will take her in before that:-(
X

Hi there
Today we went into the close and I found two raisins grabbed them up quickly and then saw holly sniff the neighbours baby buggy
I shouted to her to stop
And saw a opened pack of raisins
I DONT think holly ate any so I didnt rush to vet
But I am anxious incase she snorted one up and I didnt realise
It only a,month since the same people left raisins and holly ate some and was on a drip for her kidneys all night
I told these people yet they DONT give a damn
Im so upset and angry
Its the 3 rd time in a month raisins there outside my door
They disgust me with their uncaring
I figured since I didnt see holly eat any just t see how she is
She ate ok and pee ok
Her tum a bit sore justnow and she feels a bit sick
But she has been feeling like that at night anyway since being of her antibiotics
I hope I made the right decision as never saw her eat any
Oh god I hope she,is ok
I feel like moving home with people here not caring about my dog
Its,sickening
She goes through enough as it is x

So sorry gail
I feel very touched to read about the bond you and your Lola had
Im sure,she will be taking cAre of you now ,and bizzy from above :-)
You seem such a caring mum and you and Lola were so lucky to have each other :-)
How are you and bizzy doing now without dear Lola by your side?
Is your husband still in the nursing home?
Im glad you have bizzy to love
Very best wishes
Christina x

Gail
Im so sorry you lost your Lola on Feb 4 th.
Its,utterly heartbraking ,i know.i will look at loving memory section.
All the very best to you
Christina x